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Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.08 17:34:00 - [1] Edited by: Ray McCormack on 08/06/2008 17:34:48 Hey, DS, thanks for coming back to sort things out. AATP is invested heavily in H-TI. But how much does it have besides that? And have H-TI sorted out their CEO problems, is it paying dividends now? [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.09 14:37:00 - [2] Originally by: Fader Bane Perhaps doing something through the fellows at Eve Bank? Heh, I could say with perhaps some certainty that DS wouldn't hand over anything else but a wet bag of pooh to the EBank chaps. As to liquidation, I'm not even sure that is a possibility with the H-TI deal. DS, would you be willing to sell the character and handle the costs associated with that? [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.09 15:14:00 - [3] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Nice to see you are not at all spiteful Ray. Of what? [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.09 15:44:00 - [4] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Nice to see you are not at all spiteful Ray. Of what? You tell me /me shrugs. [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.14 19:36:00 - [5] DS, let's talk. I think we can come to a conclusion that sees this stay in the public domain. [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.14 21:25:00 - [6] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Ray McCormack DS, let's talk. I think we can come to a conclusion that sees this stay in the public domain. If you want to make a counter-offer or proposal, call me up on IM I don't have AIM or MSN. IRC? [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.15 07:04:00 - [7] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Interesting to note that Ray is now interested now that he has seen EBANK's interest in the venture Don't flatter yourself. I was interested in this from my first post, as can be seen from the questions. [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.15 07:07:00 - [8] Originally by: Hexxx So strong in fact, that it continues to grow even while the secondary market languishes. Hexxx, I think you're more intelligent than that. Replace "even while" with "because" and you'll be on the money. Don't you find it interesting that each time there is a decent, large public offering EBank sees a splurge of withdrawals? From my perspective, it's not that you're doing anything right, it's just that you're the only ones doing anything. [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.15 10:17:00 - [9] Originally by: SonOfAGhost However most other folks around here don't seem to have a problem with his loose morals and distorted ethics. Could you clarify those? Is it just that I won't name the 30b ISK defaulter, or is it something more? Because I swear to god she said she was 18. Regardless, the BMBE default is no longer mine to disclose. I was not in an authoritative position in the BMBE at the time of the default, I merely inherited the problem and had to follow suit with what had been decided. Ultimately TornSoul is weighed down by the foul stench of the long-dead buck I passed on to him. [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.15 16:00:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari It appears there's already bickering over this . Did you expect any less from MD? I can't logon to FreeNode for some reason, so herewith my proposal. * Maintain the 75b investment in H-TI. - It seems returns are 4% a month, and if that is after capital retention then even better. * Sell the character. - How many SP does it have. Is it mainly Industrial spec'd? * Sell DS's 10b in shares. * Utilise the additional 15b + 10b + the revenue from the character sale for medium-term, idle investments. Such as minerals, moon and advanced materials, etc. - The Asset's API will be utilised, and Jita Buy prices used to calculate NAV. - Once a final handover NAV is decided on, this will be used as the base, and any additional ISK over this will be dividended out. [WTS] Shares \| Secured ISK Loans
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.06.22 16:15:00 - [11] Originally by: Dark Shikari Who would be the CEO? By the way, those returns are not after capital retention. My alt. Originally by: Dark Shikari The character has something like ~10m SP and is an absolute maxed RP character with 4 or 5 research agents that have been collecting for at least half a year now. Cash out the datacores and sell the character. Probably get 2-3b for it. [WTS] Tech II Component BPO Sets
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.08.04 16:52:00 - [12] My offer to take over the management of AATP from DS still stands. [WTS] Tech II Component BPO Sets
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.10.22 15:12:00 - [13] I'd be happy to take over the management of AATP if H-TI are happy to continue the current arrangement. If H-TI wish to buy out or liquidate AATP's share in the corporation then I'd request they establish a suitable figure and act on it as soon as possible. I'd like a time limit set on that, if they can't provide an estimate and payment plan within a month then the current arrangement should continue indefinitely. If it does continue, I will utilise additional AATP assets to maximise profits. [WTS] Tech II Component BPO Sets
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.10.23 07:57:00 - [14] I'll hold off applying for now until I have some indication from H-TI of their intentions. Ghost, I'll try catch you in-game tonight or this weekend. [WTS] Tech II Component BPO Sets
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.10.24 06:17:00 - [15] Originally by: Ghost Emperor EMFI are happy if Ray manages the corp as going concern (although it is a shell corp at present and might be better if assets sold to active corps) and might even invigorate the corp; I'd be looking for a mixture of passive and active investments, leaning more towards the active to stimulate shareholder dividends. Originally by: Ghost Emperor EMFI are happy if current cash assets are paid out as dividends to aatp shareholders, another 3.5bn should be paid in the next week or so; How often are H-TI dividends paid currently? Originally by: Ghost Emperor EMFI would swap back AATP shares for H-TI shares wherever possible (in effect they are the same as they should pay same dividends from the same source (H-TI) so swap price can be figured out easily; I'd prefer to keep AATP invested. Originally by: Ghost Emperor H-TI would like buyback opportunity on shares for some or all (H-TI and several staff in unison), if shortfall of funds then they could be bought with brokered loan from ebank or held by Ray until gradually liquidated; I'd like to maintain the investment in H-TI initially until I have the existing ISK invested and solid plans to replace the H-TI investment. But I think this would be the way to go. I cannot and would not stand in the way of H-TI shareholders buying out AATP's share. I'd prefer this to happen gradually though, to allow any new activities to reach maturity. I think the next step would be for H-TI shareholders to establish an offer price and announce it here. Originally by: Ghost Emperor EMFI could do a share expansion and offer exchange of EMFI shares for AATP shares? My preference would be as above, to maintain the current investment structure and introduce a gradual sale of H-TI stock back to it's shareholders, while at the same time increasing the active investment within AATP itself. [WTS] Tech II Component BPO Sets
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2008.10.24 06:28:00 - [16] Originally by: Ricdic Cash - 18,031,656,829 Xanotech - 17,044 - merged into AATP. S.T.U.F.F - 300 - closed, did DS pay out last dividend? Hi-Tech Industries - 9,000 - Ghost, current H-TI shareholders to establish offer price. AATP - 981,999 - zero value. - will only be sold via exchanges once a share price is established. Stock - 1.5b EMFi Hauler1 - 3b - Ric, I presume we need to talk about this off-forum?

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